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New Gen-X Bears Toronto Group

Might be interesting to see how this turns out.

Although I object to labeling myself as Generation-X* as I've actually read Douglas Coupland's book. The freaks could come out of the woodwork for this club. We shall see. It may also rock.

* shh, don't look at my user-info, I'm a big hypocrite, Although the label Gen-X has sorta become a term onto it's own, it was just sorta created inadvertently.

Date: 2001-10-23 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattycub.livejournal.com
Interestingly enough, I've read all of Coupland's books except for Generation-X. And his most recent one which just came out a few weeks ago. I suppose I need to add that to my ever-growing "to-read" pile.

My personal favorite of his is Microserfs.

Date: 2001-10-23 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Microserfs is excellent! I remember at the time that book was released a family friend was working at IBM (an OS/2 developer of all things!) and having pretty much all the same experiences. Smoking pot on campus, buying a red Mazda Miata then selling that red Mazda Miata and buying/marrying a girlfriend etc.

I've only read Generation-X, Microserfs and City of Glass, which really isn't so much a book as much as a guide to the left/west coast of Canada.

Re:

Date: 2001-10-23 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattycub.livejournal.com
I would also recommend Shampoo Planet and Girlfriend in a Coma. A lot of people didn't care for the latter, but I loved it.

Oh, and Polaroids From the Dead is fun too (especially if you have any interest in the Grateful Dead/Phish phenom), but it's more a collection of really short stories than a novel.

Date: 2001-10-23 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathan.livejournal.com
Who is the owner of this site?

Many forgetful years ago when I was trying to get GXB Canada going and Scott was involved with trying to get a Toronto chapter going, it ultimately ended up failing because most of the guys who were members were already going out to the Toolbox and doing things together.

At the same time, it was again a case of people wanted the events but didn't want to put any work into it. Which is typical for the Toronto scene.

Actually I just joined and saw that BrianK was taking the project on. Kudos to him! I know he's a good guy.

Date: 2001-10-23 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bremo.livejournal.com
I was willing to do do work. *shrugs*

Date: 2001-10-23 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathan.livejournal.com
Yes, and there were other people willing to do the work too and tried. What use is doing the work if nobody is going to come to your events, etc? It simply wasn't worth it.

And why should only one person do all the work as well?

I had a look through the listing to see who is involved and it looks like a good group. :o)

Date: 2001-10-23 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emsbear.livejournal.com
I tried getting involved with the Philly group but they hardly ever did anything.....what they mostly did was a few would gather every Wednesday night to watch Star Trek. That was it.

They did one really cool day event with one of the other bear groups but they didn't meet at all during the summer (when it made sense to do stuff).

I'd love to get involved with either GXB-TO or BBT....we'll see which one has the better potential.

Date: 2001-10-23 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathan.livejournal.com
Don't bother joining BBT. It's not worth it for the politics and in fighting. For the $30 you pay for the membership, you reall don't get much out of it.

That doesn't mean don't get to know the members. Scott and I know most of the guys anyway.

Date: 2001-10-23 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fyve.livejournal.com
i was active at one time, i'm not really right now. i'd have fun playing with the website, or helping out with the newsletter though.

my 30 bucks goes to two wonderful catered dinners and a pride float. even if i didn't pay it, i'd still know most of the guys, just like you do.

you know what though? if someone asked me to convince another to join the club, i couldn't. my only answer for being a paid member is... "just because" not anything more involved. *shrugs*

i will say this, i'm really glad that BBT is not a group who supports any charitable organization. i could see about 10 people each trying to push their political agendas all at the same time. oy. what a headache. infighting? hah. inKILLING is more like it! LOL

Date: 2001-10-23 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beardoc.livejournal.com
I never really saw the point of a Gen-X bears group. I joined the international chapter of one, and basically just found it to be people whinging about how they're excluded because of their age. And organising Star Trek nights.

I guess I don't see the point because when I was 20 I was already founding Sydney's major bear club and integrating into the "mainstream" bear community there just fine. No-one seemed to care that I was 20.

Date: 2001-10-23 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathan.livejournal.com
Looking at the group from my age now, I do see the value in such a group.. but you're right when I was 21 I was integrating myself into the gay community, not just the bear community.

However, there are tonnes of guys out there who don't necessarily want to fit in to the bear community that goes to the bars... the gay community as it is here in Toronto...

Date: 2001-10-24 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beardoc.livejournal.com
So why doesn't the local bear club do non-bar events? We do!

Date: 2001-10-24 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathan.livejournal.com
BBT does have very few bar events.. but like I said, people may not necessarily want to join in with the local bear group. And in the case of BBT they only have one or two regular non-bar events. Games night and Bowling.

Date: 2001-10-23 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notofthisworld.livejournal.com
Hey Brodie, AIM me.

Gen-X Bears

Date: 2001-10-23 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmon.livejournal.com
I was part of the Chicago chapter before it really got going. There was one only event that got off the ground over the course of about 3 years, a holiday dinner, and only people showed up for that, including the host. Of course, as soon as I moved away, the chapter reformed and seems to still be going strong.

There was an Atlanta chapter, but that crumbled right after I arrived here; I went to one event, and then ... ka-blam... it was no more. A new chapter has yet to be reorganized, apparently due to a lack of interest.

So either I'm unlucky when it comes to local Gen-X chapters, or I'm an unknowing curse to their existence...

ooops

Date: 2001-10-23 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmon.livejournal.com
Meant to say "only 3 people showed up" to that Chicago Gen-X holiday dinner. Geez, sounds like I might have been expecting something other than people to show...

speaking as a "former member" ahem...

Date: 2001-10-23 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fyve.livejournal.com
*g*

i have to agree with iain. a good percentage of the guys involved with gxb-to were already hanging out together and saw no reason to do too much since we all got to see each other over the course of a couple months anyways.

spontaneous events and "hangin out" were par for the course. i remember emailing out to guys for info for the website, and when i olny got 12 emails back (10 with the requested info) out of 56 people on the list, i must admit, i felt quite apathetic.

i stopped working on the site, watched those who had been pushing events and such grow tired, and even when people stepped up (like bremo *hugz*), we found that no one really had the time or interest to go to any of the events. so, it died.

i still have that redesign of the gxb-to site somewhere, but i fear it'd be kinda useless now. a yahoo group such as our good man brian kearns has started is all that really is required. brian definitely is a man ya gotta give credit too, he started up the bearyouth.org site years ago, and has kept it running through all it's various incarnations.

i know now not to expect greats things to come of this. i'm a little older and wiser now. but hey, if people can connect through the online club and have some fun times, it's all worth it. even *if* we have to use yahoo's nasty looking pages and rather frustrating static options. *g*

i joined. let's have a bit of fun with it.

Re: speaking as a "former member" ahem...

Date: 2001-10-23 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
That's the way I see it. It could be a lot of fun, I'm gonna give it a good try but if it turns out not to be worth my effort, so be it. At that point I'll be gone like dust. I'm not going to be all Kevin Costner in The Postman and be the last man standing a century after the fact. Yeah, so I'm the only guy who saw that movie and enjoyed it.

But I am excited about hanging out in a non-toolbox sorta situation. I do enjoy the bar scene, but so far my whole out life has sorta revolved around that with the exception of pride (which was really just a bigger party).

Re: speaking as a "former member" ahem...

Date: 2001-10-24 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathan.livejournal.com
*nods* And Brian is a go-getter from what I have seen so I have no doubt that his work on GXB Toronto will go far.

So while I have said the initial attempt at a GXB chapter failed, Brian may not and I'm actually quite hopeful.

Things are changing in the gay community here in Toronto, and I suspect else where.

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