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I went and saw a specialist today. Dr. John Chong is a doctor who takes an interesting approach to all sorts of injuries in musicians. That trauma and stress manifest physically in things like depression and make you susceptable to all sorts of repetitive stress injuries and Bad Things in general. The neuro-transmittor inhibitors I'm on treat the symptoms but our goal is to deal with the things that caused the damage to begin with. So he psycho analyses me for a while and comes up with things such as abandoment issues surrounding Dad and the absolutely necessity of music in my life. Nothing earth shattering here really.

So I have been prescribed viola lessons and we will be titrating my medication next month. I have a few other short term goals such as returning to school full time, I've been there rather infrequently lately while sorting out the drugs and finding a job. Mostly I need to fill my time with useful things. Anyhow, the first steps in the right direction were taken today. I often doubt my ability to follow through but I have faith I can do it this time.

A big thanks goes out to all my friends who've been there for me, you know who you are. And of course the kindness of near-strangers here on Livejournal. Your combined generosity of support has been tremendous. Not outta the woods yet but I've discovered moths active in night time sleep on the north side of trees during the day. It's true. It has to be, I heard it on the CBC.

Date: 2003-03-31 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenneferre.livejournal.com
Viola lessons?

Date: 2003-03-31 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jargon.livejournal.com
Sweet, I should see me a shrink. Antidepressants are definitely good for killing symptoms, but I'd rather not be dependent on a chemical to keep me "normal" for the rest of my life.

Date: 2003-03-31 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
That's a common mis-conception. With proper treatment you can titrate off the anti-depressants once the situational stressors that lead you to feeling badly are eliminated and you learn effect skills for dealing with them.

That's given a diagnosis of major depression though. It's different if you're diagnosed with bi-polar syndrome. Or such is my understanding.

Date: 2003-04-01 05:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coltcub.livejournal.com
I agree with Brodie.
Antidepressants only helps you in the first phase, and usually never been used alone, then you will stop to take it and continue with the other pills in a longer term treatment.

The thing that usually surprises me is the resistance to be drugged by a doctor, and the curious thing is, only when you stops to fight with the antidrepressants (and the "high" effect) is when it helps you.

If you are bipolar, will help you doing it softer, and maybe, the high state longer.
This was my case, and after tree years of a 4 month treatment I'm still in the higher state.

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Date: 2003-04-01 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jargon.livejournal.com
What the shit? I never said I was bipolar. I have panic disorder. I'd rather not. That's why I'm not a huge fan of being on medication my entire life. I don't have an issue with it for a little while, but not for years upon years upon years.

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Date: 2003-04-01 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coltcub.livejournal.com
ok, but anyway, you only can take SRI pills for tree months as maximum.
it will be good for you if you never change your dose, I mean: no double dose, don't stop suddenly to take it, if you do it you will get a "bad trip" some hours later.
the "drunk" or sleepy effect should dissapear in a week, if not, you should try with another brand of pills, (ask to your therapist about it)

why am I telling you this?
because our therapist should did it.

yay!

Date: 2003-04-01 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaminaca.livejournal.com
i'm glad you're feeling better huneybunch.

*huggles and happy fuzzy things*

- M.

Date: 2003-04-01 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbear70.livejournal.com
I've often wondered how many cases of depression in the general public go undiagnosed and consequently, untreated.

Although I can't say I know everything about your situation, I'm glad to see you're on the road to recovery though Brodie. Many people end up forcing their depression on friends, family and lovers without ever examining themselves. It's refreshing to meet someone who is taking responsibility for himself and getting treatment.

Date: 2003-04-01 10:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've never been a fan of anti-depressants after hearing and seeing some of the effects it has on people. Creating emotionless drones. It's depressing, ironically enough.

A job eh? Not that it's anything big, but we are hiring at the theatre in April.

Date: 2003-04-01 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cub4bear.livejournal.com
I've never been a fan of anti-depressants after hearing and seeing some of the effects it has on people. Creating emotionless drones. It's depressing, ironically enough.

I wish people wouldn't spread this around without providing context. The VAST MAJORITY of people who take antidepressants do not experience emotional blunting.

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Date: 2003-04-10 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I promise I will not make any more comments that outlast entries..not good form there;-)

Anyhow...Viola lessons? That's kind of neat..I wonder why Viola in particular..I always wanted Cello lessons, never could afford them..and to be honest with myself would have had difficulty putting in the time needed to get any good, still would have been interesting though. I squeaked through Piano and am now currently degrading guitar.

I can't speak personally about your situation, there have been times where I have felt like I needed to take that step and go see a psychiatrist, 3 years ago was the worst. It might have solved myself a lot of undue difficulties, much of which have nothing to do with the mental health had I done so. I chose a different path, largely fed by my fear that I could have had what was the beginning of my grandmother's illness, and so I didn't want to take the path, she has, or been forced to take, that is...while I was stable enough , to do otherwise. And then there is pride here, though I don't know what it should come from.

What I was going to say was that being medicated is not a natural state of being..its just a better state than the alternative, and even that is not always the case. I see this in my grandmother, who has been on medication so long now that I'm not quite sure what the natural state was. I am certain, in her best moments that it shines through without the medication, and that those moments, are the only true ones in which she feels comfortable and in which we can understand her as a person.

You sound like you know what you're doing. You also sound like you don't have a fear of playing your cards in the open, that you're willing to lean on someone else without any notions that you are giving up, or throwing yourself out of your control. Hell, you're a lot further along than me :-) Good luck, but you're also making luck for yourself, which is the way to go.

Tom
tac_carleton@yahoo.com

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Date: 2003-04-11 07:25 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
My last post did outlast the original entry...no promises I guess...yet another reason not to get a Live Journal account though maybe, or at least not to give out my full name...I'm going to get someone coming over one day and bashing my head in with Frying Pan.. "Shut up", "Shut Up", "Shut Up".

Ok..I'm gone now, take care

Tom

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