Jul. 31st, 2003 10:47 pm
nfotxn: (All in your guh-ril.)
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Hey, anybody running Three Degrees? I wanna play.

Date: 2003-07-31 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] five0xpres.livejournal.com
Looks interesting. Is it any good or typical MS flash & flare with no function?

Date: 2003-07-31 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] five0xpres.livejournal.com
um...don't you have to be signed onto MSN Messenger too for this to work? :)

Date: 2003-07-31 09:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Is it any good or typical MS flash & flare with no function?

That's a bold generalization.

Date: 2003-07-31 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] five0xpres.livejournal.com
True, but it's been proven more than once in the past.

I was just curious if it was going to disprove that theory.

Date: 2003-07-31 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
That's not very nice.

Brodie, it doesn't want to work on my home PC. I think it's still having trouble with NAT stuff... :/

Date: 2003-07-31 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] five0xpres.livejournal.com
The truth isn't always nice. I thought it was kind of shady for Microsoft to set it up so if you don't allow MSN/Windows Messenger to connect to the internet after installing Windows XP, it won't allow IE to connect either.

And this new version of MSN Messenger has an annoying pause while typing that I don't get under Trillian Pro. Microsoft can produce some cool and useful software, but they can also crank out some buggy stuff.

Date: 2003-07-31 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cpratt.livejournal.com
Come again? You don't need to run MSN or Windows Messenger to connect to the Internet using IE. If you don't want to use Messenger, you don't have to. In Tools | Options [in Messenger], go to the General pane, and deselect the Automatically run Messenger when I log on to Windows option.

Are you seeing the pauses in the upgrade of MSN Messenger 6 that was released today?

Date: 2003-07-31 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] five0xpres.livejournal.com
Yep...long pauses while typing.

And yes, you have to allow MSN/Windows Messenger to connect to the net once before running IE for the first time or you can't connect to the net. I set my firewall to block MSN/Windows Messenger and when I started IE after the inital install, it gave me the lave "Can not connect to server right now." After several attempts to correct the problem, I allowed Messenger to connect and BOOM!...all of a sudden IE was able to find the web again.

I've been able to reproduce this in another test partition running a multi-boot configuration.

Tryin

Date: 2003-07-31 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] balloonbear.livejournal.com
Im trying to download it.. but I got to get a few updates for windows before I can run it. Looks like a cool program tho

Date: 2003-07-31 09:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bu5ter.livejournal.com
I've got it set up. Just not sure how to go about getting everything going.

Same here lol

Date: 2003-07-31 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] balloonbear.livejournal.com
its up and running but Now what? Help Us Brodie! Show us the way :P

Date: 2003-07-31 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bu5ter.livejournal.com
Well, it doesn't look like I won't get to join in the fun. 3° does not support my NAT.

Date: 2003-07-31 09:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm not using my NAT right now as I'm only using one PC these days. It's a real bummer.

Install

Date: 2003-07-31 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] balloonbear.livejournal.com
Oh How long Did the install take for everyone? Its been on Opening Firewall Ports on mine for about 15 mins....

OK!!

Date: 2003-08-01 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] balloonbear.livejournal.com
5.0 and I Figured it out for the most part lol. If you tried to install it late last night, there was problems with thier servers. Reinstalled everything today and it works fine.. Just need to make sure Everyones Running WMP 9.0 Also... and Have firewalls like ZA set to Medium..any higher wont connect.

Paranoia

Date: 2003-08-01 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raphbearish.livejournal.com
Wow, is it any wonder that so many things need to be opened and running from various MS products for other MS things to operate as well? WMP 9.0, MSN, etc...

I heard WMP 9.0 has some kind of "thing" (okay, my geek vocabular is suffering at 2AM, cut me some slack) that lets MicroSloth keep checks on what sorts of media you've been playing on it and such - kind of reports back to home base and stuff.

Re: Paranoia

Date: 2003-08-01 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
They have a whole privacy statement that most people don't bother to read before making paranoid claims.
"What Personally Identifiable Information Does Windows Media Player for Windows XP Gather?

Windows Media Player for Windows XP collects no Personally Identifiable Information from you. Windows Media Player for Windows XP does not require nor accept any personal data when downloading or when using one of its many features."


Re: Paranoia

Date: 2003-08-01 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raphbearish.livejournal.com
I think it's just the attention that most people give MS because of previous bugs and holes in their software. I don't usually pay attention to the mass hysteria, but this whole thread seemed like a funnel for MS bashing at the time.

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