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I think it's fucked up that there's a new iTunes store and iTunes for Windows and it's still not accessible in the UK and I assume Canada.

The hype just fell flat on it's face. I am impatient and disappointed.

Well, at least I can browse...

Date: 2003-10-16 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cub4bear.livejournal.com
Yeah, the hype just fell flat on its face because copyright law is different in different countries and Apple needs to negotiate different licensing agreements in each one! DAMN THAT HYPE! IT JUST FELL FLAT ON ITS FACE!!!!!

Date: 2003-10-16 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Definitely. But it's also been quite a long time since the store made it's debut. How much does copyright really differ between the US, Canada , UK, France, Germany etc?

The hype does faulter when I get absolutely no pratical benefit from iTunes for windows as it stands.

Date: 2003-10-16 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dizzi-d.livejournal.com
Actually, I think it also has to do with enforcement of patents and legal agreements in the EU. I caught an article in passing last week that referred to several patents on the delivery of digital content that were preventing Apple (and everyone else) from moving ahead on any kind of music store with confidence...

Date: 2003-10-16 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cub4bear.livejournal.com
It's only been about seven months, which isn't really that long. Without any idea as to how long it took for them to negotiate the rights for the US, how can you decide that it's been too long for other countries? I can guarantee you that they're working on the music store for other countries right now. They'd be insane not to, and it's in their interest to get it completed as soon as possible.

In any case, given that Apple only has limited resources, don't you think that focusing on getting the store for Windows users in the US, which is 10 times the population of Canada, and 3.5 times the population of the UK, makes sense as their first priority? There's a whole lot of infrastructure -- servers, legal agreements, governmental red tape, all kinds of things -- that needs to be in place before they can open the store in other countries.

And as someone who used to drool over iTunes every time he used it on my cube, I can tell that you're just being bitchy because the music store isn't ready for other countries yet. iTunes is still more than useful without the music store, which I seem to recall you being less than enthusiastic about anyway -- something about the death of the album or somesuch.

"The hype" didn't "fall flat on its face" because Apple wasn't promising anything other than what they delivered, and nobody was expecting anything else anyway.

Date: 2003-10-16 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cub4bear.livejournal.com
I knew you'd say that!

NALYA!!

Date: 2003-10-16 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brianrdu.livejournal.com
What dizzibear said.

I wrote this in response to a reply in my LJ:

"I think there are some hurdles that have to be overcome before iTunes comes over there. The big one is that someone holds an unexpired patent for Europe that covers downloading electronic files and saving them to media. It was originally issued in the late 70's to mid-80's, as crazy as that sounds, and the person who filed it (or his company) didn't renew it when it expired in the US, so it's not an issue here. That company is preparing to sue Microsoft and a partner company for selling downloadable music in Europe, so I think Apple is waiting to see how it all shakes out."

The place I read it was wired.com, and it was on Tuesday, although now I can't find the article.

Date: 2003-10-16 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goofybearz.livejournal.com
Yeah, they have Alanis Morrisette listed under the blues genera

Date: 2003-10-16 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cub4bear.livejournal.com
She's under "Alternative" for me...

Date: 2003-10-16 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goofybearz.livejournal.com
Well, that's what I saw when I went there.

Date: 2003-10-16 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisglass.livejournal.com
I get the blues when I listen to Alanis

Date: 2003-10-16 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goofybearz.livejournal.com
Well, sometimes I do too.

Date: 2003-10-16 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mathan.livejournal.com
I don't because I feel like she's behind me with a... oh never mind. :P

Date: 2003-10-17 05:49 am (UTC)

Date: 2003-10-16 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janusdoa.livejournal.com
Why so disappointed? Were you so desperately looking forward to buying music you could just as easily steal? From the psychopaths at Apple, no less?

Date: 2003-10-17 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antnycub.livejournal.com
I can understand some amount of that frustration as I'm also from "Canadia", as they like to call it here in sunny Maine.
I thought as soon as i crossed the border I could just hop online and start downloading tune after glorious tune. Nope. The permanent address on my Mastercard is based in Canada and when i called to change it they didn't much like that idea. Apple doesn't like it when the billing address and "shipping address" don't match up.

Secondly, when you purchase tracks from the iTMS in the US and you go to another country and change your local settings iTunes will de-authorise itself and render your purchased tracks unavailable.

The hype may have fallen on its face but it's ever so much fun!

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