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Somebody really ought to tell these guys who are "straight acting" that even the straights don't want to act that way anymore.

Date: 2003-12-13 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theotherqpc.livejournal.com
so wait...straight guys don't wanna suck cock anymore?

damn, time for plan B....

Date: 2003-12-13 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Naw, they don't prance around in wranglers talking about trucks. At least not anywhere I've been. Fuck, even my relatives in rural parts of Ontario dye their hair and use moisturizer now.

Date: 2003-12-13 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theotherqpc.livejournal.com
impressive! but do they do it tastefully? i remember back in high school, the whole wrestling team would bleach their hair together, and most guys looked like SHIT.

i dig the new icon - i think it's the first time i've seen a BrodieSmile®

Date: 2003-12-13 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Thanks! I believe it was [livejournal.com profile] sinnabor who took it rather candidly in Amsterdam. I do actually smile, quite often infact but it's hard to take a picture of yourself doing it without looking utterly contrieved.

Date: 2003-12-13 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericdabear.livejournal.com
beautifully put

Times are changing...

Date: 2003-12-13 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nthebare.livejournal.com
Well, men all over are realizing that it's "ok to cry". They don't have to personify thier father's idea of what a man is (or at least has to be).

By the way, I love your new picture.

Date: 2003-12-13 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tallbearnc.livejournal.com
ahahah very very true.

Can I get an amen?

Date: 2003-12-13 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] gmjambear
AMEN!!!
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Date: 2003-12-13 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Definitely, unfinished edges are nice. But I honestly think that they're things of the past, unfortunately. I mean we live in such an advanced culture now that one has to live in a bubble or become totally contrived in order to portray that kind of masculinity. Fundamentally it's a denial of that fact that really bugs me.

Ultimately in order to stay genuine I think the only option is to create a synthesis of both. But you have to stay aware because awareness, to me, is very masculine. Which gets into the subjectivity of masculinity.
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Date: 2003-12-14 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakystyle.livejournal.com
I will say this to you both:
If you meet the most beautiful, "masculine" man out there but he doesn't know how to relax, let go and be silly sometimes; do you cling yourself to him or do you get annoyed that he can't let go of other people's "masculine" opinion of him?

What I'm really trying to say is if you look like a "butch man" and you can't act like a big fucking girl sometimes, who's to say you are really that tough if you CAN'T EVEN ACT LIKE A GIRL? PANSY ASS!!!!!!!
If being effeminate is below men, why is it so hard for most men to do it?

Brodie...........
CHILL OUT!!! :o)

Date: 2003-12-14 06:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Hey, I'm chill. Just discussing the issue.

Date: 2003-12-14 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freakystyle.livejournal.com
I'm just playin' with ya. Discuss away!!

Date: 2003-12-13 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goofybearz.livejournal.com
Someone should and that icon looks good on you.

Date: 2003-12-13 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bookish-cub.livejournal.com
lol...interesting point. i also like the new icon, btw.
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Re: if i were a playboy bunny...

Date: 2003-12-13 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Yup, a lot of these self-described "butch" or "straight-acting" guys can't even say "I'm gay" to their co-workers. It's a bit of a paradox really.
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Re: if i were a playboy bunny...

Date: 2003-12-13 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
But then again 'masculinity' has as wide a definition as 'bear' does now. *tounge firmly in cheek*

Precisely. And awareness of that diversity is critical. Personally I can't put on being "masculine" without feeling more phoney than a drag queen on stilts with a pair of cymbals. Infact the drag queen seems more sincere because obviously she's being honest with herself.

As a matter of personal growth I can say I thougth much along the same lines that you are. But then after far too many dates and tricks than I'd like to admit I became much more aware that this was more so about a need to affirm my own masculinity than it was to seek it out in others. My constant search for "masculinity" became the stigmata of my own insecurity. Once you become aware of that it's easier to see beauty in everyone and that ultimately, despite our mannerisms, it's the character that real lives make that is attractive.

This is why I stand outside most of the labels. Even though hairy bums, beards and devil-may-care attitudes are hot I cannot deny that I am very lower middle class, sometimes articulate, frequently insecure and generally not unlike most real people that I know.

*sniff*

Date: 2003-12-13 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumberjack.livejournal.com
Are you telling me all my hard work to earn this:

level1

was in vain?

Re: *sniff*

Date: 2003-12-13 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisglass.livejournal.com
Damnit, I knew I had too many candles. I'll never get to Level 1.

*pads off and lights one up in defiance*

Re: *sniff*

Date: 2003-12-13 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slumberjack.livejournal.com
Don't give up. Somehow I eeked by despite owning almost every Swing Out Sister CD.

Re: *sniff*

Date: 2003-12-14 05:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beardoc.livejournal.com
I think it was the complete knowledge of the films of Barbara Stanwyck that lost me the Level 1 status.

*grin*

Date: 2003-12-13 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aadroma.livejournal.com
So then they'd draw MORE attention to themselves as gay men, seeing as straight men don't act that way. Hrm...

* on another note *

Date: 2003-12-14 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kenlin.livejournal.com
I love the new icon... I have ALWAYS loved your glasses - I am thinking about getting fames similar to them but I have to see how they look on me first....

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