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It should be pointed out that historically the idea of the patriot has primarily served as a mechanism of control. Patriotism is an emotional lever inside of you. A conditioning you've received your entire lifetime that will and has been called upon by the powers that be when they need you. Be it form social conformism all the way to genocide. The more conditioned to be a patriot the more likely you are to fulfill these tasks.

It troubles me today that it is the rational man who feels like a political outsider. To believe in concepts more fundamental than politics or religion is to be cast into the role of "bleeding heart liberal". "communist" or "hippie". Then again leave it to the ignorant zealots of greed and power to define you by their own terms.

ps: I am writing this to get laid.

Date: 2004-06-10 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrjarrett.livejournal.com
You free-thinking rebel.

I must have you NOW.

*sweeps table clear*

;)

Date: 2004-06-10 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Just a sec, I need to un-bun my hair and take out the peace beads. They totally bruise when I'm on my back.

Date: 2004-06-10 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dizzi-d.livejournal.com
Are they the BIG peace beads? The ones you have to pull out slowly?

Date: 2004-06-10 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Yes, all shaped like different biblical figures.

Date: 2004-06-10 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grrtigger.livejournal.com
That all adds up together to a lot of wrong :p

Date: 2004-06-10 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Sometimes baby jesus gets a little bit of a dirty face. But nothing a little water and bleach can't tackle!

Date: 2004-06-10 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grrtigger.livejournal.com
That's a mental picture I won't soon be rid of ;p

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Date: 2004-06-10 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goofybearz.livejournal.com
I consider myself to be a person with individualist tendencies. Does that make me sexy or Fat?

Date: 2004-06-10 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twnchicago.livejournal.com
It's hard to make a distinction between the two since one begets the other...

Date: 2004-06-10 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Thanks for pointing that out so I didn't have to.

Date: 2004-06-10 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twnchicago.livejournal.com
I got your back, buddy...

Date: 2004-06-10 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrjarrett.livejournal.com
...or ON his back? ;)

Date: 2004-06-10 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twnchicago.livejournal.com
it's all good...
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Date: 2004-06-10 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
To a certain point. Ayn Rand is gross. And many objectivist economists use it as rational for unprecedented levels of greed.
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From: [identity profile] bitterlawngnome.livejournal.com
That's really interesting, I always thought Objectivist=Randroid. Good to know.
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Re: Objectivism

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Date: 2004-06-10 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranger1.livejournal.com
My high school English teacher saw Ayn Rand speak once. She said Rand reminded her of a small toad, squat and ugly. In this instance, I think the book matches the cover. The Fountainhead is a terrific novel but she should've stuck to fiction. Objectivism, like Marxism, has some nice-sounding ideas that do not translate well to the non-fiction realm.

Date: 2004-06-10 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterlawngnome.livejournal.com
I've never known with Rand whether to read her as straight-up or as satire ... she was, after all, writing during the cold war era, during mccarthyism, and the stuff she writes is such utter nonsense as to verge on the deliberately absurd. Compare Atlas Shrugged with Animal Farm ...

Date: 2004-06-10 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranger1.livejournal.com
I haven't read Atlas Shrugged yet. Should I bother?

Date: 2004-06-10 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterlawngnome.livejournal.com
Probably not, it's the same as the rest of her stuff and she wasn't that good a writer anyway.
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Date: 2004-06-10 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grrtigger.livejournal.com
I don't agree that patriotism is only a form of subjugation. I believe it can be (and is widely) used as such to control or influence those who blindly leap onboard the party wagon because they aren't comfortable with producing their own interpretations and/or opinions (there is safety in numbers), but there's nothing wrong with loving and supporting your country as long as you're also willing to evaluate how things are going and whether change or caution or alarm are necessary.

( overly simplified in a horrendous run-on sentence, but yeah )

Date: 2004-06-10 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] profundis.livejournal.com
ps: I am writing this to get laid.

Sounds good to me, but for us it will have to post-debate aggression-venting sex, ya pinko. ;)

Actually I agree with you (mostly) on this one...state sponsored patriotism may as well be religion - as least as far as social control goes. I endorse the concept of individual patriotism for one's culture/land/home/people, but as a point of pride and community, not as a means to coerce, ostracize, and oppress.

Hmm, maybe *I'm* the hippie now, 'cause that sounds entirely unrealistic...

Date: 2004-06-10 07:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indeterminacy.livejournal.com
it's working...hey, I see some real cheap airfares to Chicago!

did you catch any of the Reagan memorial on TV yesterday? good stuff...so much B.S., Keith was willing to watch a Woody Allen movie in lieu of

cute new icon btw

Date: 2004-06-10 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
I mosdef wanna get to Chi-town (that's what it's called right? I'm hip, with it. "Groovy") one of these days.

I avoided watching the Reagan hullabaloo as best I could yesterday. I'm so skeptical of everything on a federal level in the USA. Honest sentiment or not.

Thanks, I decided that smiling would be a good idea.

Date: 2004-06-10 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indeterminacy.livejournal.com
we got 3 extra bedrooms & aerobeds...so you can bring your imaginary friends too

Date: 2004-06-10 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingoftoday.livejournal.com
What if I like to drink way too much booze out of plastic pineapples? Does that make me politically radical or just a drunken Canadian?

Date: 2004-06-10 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
It just makes you a drunken Canadian liable to fall for the charming manly wiles of foreign hunks.

Date: 2004-06-10 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingoftoday.livejournal.com
*blush*
So it was the booze talking then?

Date: 2004-06-10 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thekingoftoday.livejournal.com
I didn't think so ;-)

Date: 2004-06-10 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buc.livejournal.com
Dear, I don't care what you say. I bought one of those cute window flags for my SUV at the 7 Eleven back when they were so popular, and I get comments from all the gals at the beauty parlor about what strong patriotism I have. I even have a huge flag hanging outside of my home. I support whatever decisions that nice Bush fellow makes, because he is the one who won the election. His daddy was president, too. That means he's smart.

I will still give you a pity-fuck, though.

Date: 2004-06-10 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indeterminacy.livejournal.com
Bombay here. Let me echo Midge's thoughts. Every 4th of July I make a big homemade flag cake...but it's a bitch finding black frosting for the swastika!

Date: 2004-06-10 08:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buc.livejournal.com
Here's a tip. I special order my black frosting from Martha Krankenversicherung. She's the Martha Stewart of Germany. Good luck!

Date: 2004-06-10 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
How does she get her icing so black and creamy? Why the only time I've seen a colour so dark was the colour of coal itself! Or other charred remains.

Date: 2004-06-10 08:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buc.livejournal.com
Aw! Now you are just giving away all of Ms Krankenversicherung's secrets.

ps - The black frosting sure does make a cake patriotic, but a couple days later, the end result of that black frosting is not a pretty picture. Let's hope the press doesn't get hold of that tid-bit of information.

Date: 2004-06-10 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indeterminacy.livejournal.com
Indeed, I know Martha...she raises jackals and feeds them raw liver...charming lady.

Date: 2004-06-10 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmon.livejournal.com
Midge, I've seen your flag, and while the flowers-in-old-watering-pot image is very nice, I have to say that "Have a Nice Day!" is not, in fact, the national slogan. Therefore, I must doubt your neighbors truthfullness when they call you "patriotic." Are you sure it wasn't "pastry erotic"?

Date: 2004-06-10 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jprtoronto.livejournal.com
I'm way to stupid for you.

But I give excellent head.

Date: 2004-06-10 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ranger1.livejournal.com
There's another angle to patriotism: it has been invoked by insurgents during times of revolution. The concept is quite flexible and doesn't necessarily serve entrenched powers.

So you wanna get laid by political scientists? Bah, forget them. Post about the 90-nanometer process on the new G5 chips instead. Everyone knows Mac geeks do it big endian. (*rimshot*)

Date: 2004-06-10 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Was it you who I was talking to about case modding and how liquid cooling would never go mainstream?

Date: 2004-06-10 10:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinnabor.livejournal.com
Apple should do the Cray 2 thing and make clear plastic cases like aquariums and fill them with flourinert.

Then we could hot-glue one of those "zen garden" mini waterfalls on top and use it as a radiator.

I touched a Cray 2 once, and left a smudgy fingerprint on it. There were pretty bubbles inside. It would have looked great with some colored underlighting.

Date: 2004-06-10 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinnabor.livejournal.com
Post about the 90-nanometer process on the new G5 chips instead.

Mmmm, Hawt!

Date: 2004-06-10 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iahklu.livejournal.com


your anti-conformist rational skepticism makes me hard.

Date: 2004-06-10 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thafuzz.livejournal.com
ps: I am writing this to get laid.

Wouldn't simply asking 'Who wants a lil' Brodie lovin'?' be easier?

P.S.

Date: 2004-06-10 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perkk.livejournal.com
Works for me, woof!

Date: 2004-06-10 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fredneckteddy.livejournal.com
cut the political crap and bend over ;) and this coming from someone who actually lives in the most political city in the nation...........funny, residents of DC are somewhat political, but I find that most are ambivalent.....

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