Global Warming: If You Believe In Science You Ought To Believe In It

[nfotxn]

From a Times Online article:

"The debate about whether there is a global warming signal now is over, at least for rational people," said Tim Barnett, of the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, California. "The models got it right. If a politician stands up and says the uncertainty is too great to believe these models, that is no longer tenable."

Big oil has of course been changing it's story for the last 30 years as more and more scientific data has been collected. Likely so they could migrate their investments into renewable sources of energy and beat us hippies to the punch.

Regardlessly there couldn't be more scientific proof that global warming is real and caused by greenhouse gases that we emit. But there are crazies in this world who debate the validity of science itself. And call it religious... and it is a faith based occupation of human beings. This act of empirically looking at things to come to rational conclusions.

Ugh, just humouring these notions makes me seriously ill. But yeah if some neo-con nerd argues that global warming is natural then mention this study. Or the numerous studies that correlate tree growth to temperature and pollution. They will of course move on to debating the validity of science. Perhaps while driving their combustion engine or using their micro-processor powered computer.

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Speaking of which

[poodler.livejournal.com]

The Daily Show had some author on last night who talked about the endless oceans of oil awaiting our beckoning taps. Ugh. I presume we'll one day discover that all the water dried up on Mars when the Martian neo-cons came to power.

[iposthuman.livejournal.com]

Well for what it's worth I believe. I think it's silly to point and act like this is happening for some other reason, and even if it is happening for some unknown reason our air quality still sucks and is far worse than it's been in my parents/parents.. lifetimes. This sort of thing will only get worse unless we all act to fix it, it's my general fear that it'll get worse before it gets better even if we start to fix it (for a little while at least). Bla...

[nfotxn.livejournal.com]

Inspiration for scientific discovery is inspired by faith that you'll find out something new. Also don't use quotes around a word I didn't use, it's tacky.

[dizzi-d.livejournal.com]

I read that sentence 5 times and I still don't understand what it means...

[nfotxn.livejournal.com]

Well if you're trying to deconstruct what was said don't make things up! That's not what bracketing is about.

[dizzi-d.livejournal.com]

Well, if you mean "neutralizing", then I'm familiar with it - if that was the intended usage. That's not where I was hung up.

I meant "what point are you trying to make?" - Do you mean looking at the notion of a totally subjective concept in an totally objective way?

[dizzi-d.livejournal.com]

Ahhh. In that context, I took the references ("belief" or "faith") to refer to accepting the credibility of the information and its sources, rather than extending it out to a more spiritual interpretation.

You know: "Your assertions appear to be well-founded, conclusively researched, and irrefutable - therefore I believe that you are correct. Your thorough exploration of the facts gives me considerable faith that your conclusion is indeed fact and not theory."

That sort of thing...

[bcbud.livejournal.com]

> But yeah if some neo-con nerd argues that global warming is natural then mention this study.

Or just show them Vancouver 10 years ago compared to now: We no longer get snow on our ski hills, our forests are drying up and burning off in the summers (we're a *rainforest*), and our migratory animals have stopped doing so.

When you actually live on the edge of nature, it's impossible to say there's no effect... hell -- it's visible now.

[backrubbear.livejournal.com]

The neo-cons will be much happier when the whole planet resembles the wasteland that is Texas. :-)

[bcbud.livejournal.com]

"Pave it and put in a walmart"
- as heard after hiking to the top of a local mountain last summer

[ranger1.livejournal.com]

Now that "Science isn't sure" has been retired, I look forward to far more creative excuses from our politicans. I want my lies interesting and innovative, dagnabbit. No more slacking.

[iahklu.livejournal.com]

is it wrong to love an lj icon this much?