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Hamilton Pride, what a load of bull. Stepped outside the bar and some suburban kids in their black metal t-shirt uniform yell out hateful epitaphs. I flash them the peace symbol and they walk over. Perhaps too young but likely too drunk to understand that it means "peace". [livejournal.com profile] jgrizz is walking ahead and escorts me back to the bar. They stand in front of us at the parking lot and ask if we're "faggots, skinheads or commies". I tell them I'm a faggot and a commie. He's walking down the street with an open beer and throws some at me, it gets in my eye. I'm upset now. But I don't fight, I'm not that stupid. We tell them they're really impressing their girlfriend. Who is obviously embarrassed with their bigotry.

Happy Hamilton Pride. Luckily a nice lady named Annette helped us out. We waited for them to leave and walked to the car. No harm done. Just bruised egos. I never considered myself a target. I'm a bear or some shit. Really I'm just a sensitive hairy guy with a beard. But I know that, the masculine pretence is just a mating game.

Of course John and I could have dropped kicked those fucks into Tuesday. They wanted us to, though. I will likely see them around town at shows and so forth. At which point they will not remember because they're indulged little suburban brats. Who can afford to walk around downtown drunk on a Saturday night. Unaware of their privilege and convinced by their supposed alternative lifestyle that their opinions and naivety are somehow valid.

My opinion of punk rock kids sinks to an inconceivable new low. Tonight I dream of smashing heads.

Date: 2005-06-19 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pink-prototype.livejournal.com
theres this guy who comes into the grocery store
i work at who teaches hand2hand combat moves..
in my daydreaming mind, i wanna learn those kinda skills just to go to pride events and beat up bigot-y would be basher jerks.

i blame this daydream on drew berrymore kicking all those asses
while tied to a chair in charlies angles 1..

yay.

Date: 2005-06-19 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xkot.livejournal.com
Did you mention that you're a hot and smart faggot commie? Next time throw that part in.

It sucks that you had to experience that kind of behavior. I'm sure karma will get them, though.

Date: 2005-06-19 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abearius.livejournal.com
You are fortnate that I wasn't there. In the few situations like that when I have intervened to keep people from hurting each other, I have wound up getting punched. I guess I just bring out the worst in people. . . or help them manifest the crisis that cries out for resolution.

Your story demonstrates what it is like for most faggots most places in the world. At least you're ok. I guess I don't have much to say other than that I am relieved that two of my favorite Canadian homos are alive and well and only severely annoyed. Organize for Justice, maybe. It has a more enduring impact than handing their heads back to them, though there is much to be said for the latter.

Hugs.

Date: 2005-06-19 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emramesha.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear that. And wow, look at the three groups they lumped together with that question - they certainly sound like the future of the world don't they? A dead-end future where they end up drunk and worthless. Such people are to be pitied, even though a skull bashing sounds tempting too.

Date: 2005-06-19 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimamos.livejournal.com
Sorry you went through that. Makes you stronger I guess.

Go to a really lame staight bar and yell "Heeeey!!!" That always stirs up trouble.

Date: 2005-06-19 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indiebehr.livejournal.com
do i have to remind you where you would have been better off last night ? ;)
glad things didnt turn out worse for you though

Date: 2005-06-19 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hannibull.livejournal.com
lol these people are insecure about their own masculinity, and so they try to impress each other by calling everything gay (see for yourself, go on a metal forum, "that's gay!" "fuck you fag!" ... it's hilarious!) because then they're not gay, they're MASSSSCULINNNNE! and being mean and loud only strengthens that feeling they have about themselves...
aaaaahhh insecure immature "dudes" who need to validate themselves by wearing t-shirts of the music they listen to, they sure are hilarious :-)

You reacted the better way though, by not fighting. I think that was a very good move of you, makes you the better person. I hope you weren't intimidated by these brainfarts

Date: 2005-06-20 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
I wasn't intimidate by them. There were like 7 of them though. So I knew if one of them decided to start something I probably didn't have much of a chance on my own.

Date: 2005-06-20 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hannibull.livejournal.com
ouch 7... that's a lot of hate!
I don't think there's much that you could've done anyway though, "educating" them in that situation would've been impossible (of course, it would be impossible in EVERY situation, they're just too dumb and it's a waste of time), fighting them would, as you say, bring you in a bad position, and what does it solve anyway... You know, your post really made me think! I have no idea what I would do if I was ever directly confronted with that sort of senseless hatred as you've witnessed. (I don't expect it, I don't know crime where I live at the moment) But what you've experienced is dangerous, anything could've happened... They could've started fighting and what do you do then... I have no idea :-/ I'd say always bring some dykie lesbians with you haha (just kidding) but if you have absolutely no one around you, then what

Date: 2005-06-20 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gooeygomo.livejournal.com
hahah you're right!

i work at a record store.

i'm quite brooding.

there's been a few times that a boy or two have been bantering like that.

it's nice to say "if you say the word fag one more time, i'll show you, outside, what it's like to have your ass kicked by one"

that usually shuts them up. It's a $6.00 an hour job so i could give a fuck.
so far no problems :)

Date: 2005-06-19 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quirkstreet.livejournal.com
Hey. Sorry that happened. I'm glad it wasn't worse.

Date: 2005-06-20 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
So am I. And really the danger of it being worse was pretty low. They just wanted to hate safely in their drunken stupor. The bar was crawling with people and there would have been some serious bull dyke-age out in no time. Not to mention a few hairy backed bastards in leather. And 12 fierce as fuck drag queens.

But it was highly aggravating.

Date: 2005-06-20 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Nonono honey the word is "fuckers". You're looking for "fuckers".

Date: 2005-06-20 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
And how! Grr, hoping TO pride is more... uplifting.

Date: 2005-06-19 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fao.livejournal.com
It's good to know you aren't severely wounded or so. Is amazing how you didn't fight back: kudos for you, really. Anything I can write here about stupid idiots who can deal with their own troubles reflect their insecurities on others could sound a little vain, so I prefer to send you a hug and good wishes for the days to come.

Take care!

Date: 2005-06-19 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sassy-fae.livejournal.com
What a bunch of jerks. The best consolation though, is that you're not them. How sad must their lives be when all they have to do with their time is try to taunt others. I know you rock, Brodie, and that they're poorer people for not having got to know you.

Date: 2005-06-19 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gooeygomo.livejournal.com
now that i've read this post, i MUST correct you on two things

first of all it's Epithets, and second of all, reading that the kid had an iron maiden shirt..
THOSE WERE CRUSTY METALHEAD WHITE TRASH!

punk rock kids don't typically do any gay bashing, it's not part of their agenda!

that's soooooooooooooooo insulting to people of punk, oi, skin, skater, scenes!

we hate metal heads as much as you do!

Violence in dreamland.

Date: 2005-06-19 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskerfish.livejournal.com
I used to dream of smashing heads all of the time.
The joyous schpluck! a skull makes as it relinquishes under the pressure of a booted foot in dreamland.
Sometimes I think administering the punishment begged for is appropriate.
I imagine they wouldn't be bragging too much about getting beat up by a couple of faggots.

Re: Violence in dreamland.

Date: 2005-06-20 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gooeygomo.livejournal.com
maybe you can help me.. I need to get My First Curbing under my belt, hopefully by the end of the summer... :P

(ok joking, but i really would love to curb someone!)

jump on their head and yell Oi! Oi! Oi!

:D

Re: Violence in dreamland.

Date: 2005-06-20 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whiskerfish.livejournal.com
I like the way you think!

Date: 2005-06-20 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rootbeer1.livejournal.com
In situations like this, I feel better by thinking of these kinds of idiots:

I sentence you to be the person that you are.

If they had perspective, a jackboot to the temple would seem the more welcome alternative.

Date: 2005-06-20 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
Yeah, they've got that high school bully thing going on. It's cool though, adult life will eat them up and spit them out.

Date: 2005-06-20 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pizzapotcub.livejournal.com
I wouldn't have been that brave.

Date: 2005-06-20 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nfotxn.livejournal.com
I don't think I was very brave.

Date: 2005-06-20 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/speedy_/
The thing is that their brains are pretty small ...that's why they are street drunk punks. You and jgrizz must look pretty dangerous togheter tough. Next time scare the shit out of them. Fierce !

Date: 2005-06-21 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clauditorium.livejournal.com
I'm really sorry to hear this, Brodie. I've had a few mild incidents, and even those hurt my feelings. I think you responded better than anyone could be expected to under those circumstances.

Date: 2005-06-21 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shawnsyms.livejournal.com
I hate that that happened to you. I'm glad you're both okay.
Shawn

Date: 2005-06-22 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martymcflymo.livejournal.com
I'm a fag and a commie, was sweet gold though.

Fair play to you!

Date: 2005-06-23 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brucelloyd.livejournal.com
"faggots, skinheads or commies"

Commies?! How... 1950s of them! Does anyone even use that word any more? Do they get hot lashings of Duck and Cover at home or are drilled with the evils of marihuana from Reefer Madness at home to fear "commies"?

Should have patted them on the head, told them to say their prayers and get all tucked in to bed.

Date: 2005-06-25 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trwheaton.livejournal.com
My first partner was bashed in school. One day, he realised he was bigger than the boys who were oppressing him, and he decided to fight back. He grabbed one of them by the neck, and pounded his head into the floor, saying, "That's MISTER faggot to you, you got that?!"

I'm not advocating violence against violence--
I'm just saying, sometimes we underestimate our own inner strength, that's all.

I'm glad neither of you was hurt.

How fortunate for you that the ones who wish you ill like that aren't running your country...

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